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Post by AlexH on Sept 5, 2022 17:15:14 GMT
I didn't like the Master System in comparison to the NES or PS1 in comparison to the N64, and it's probably what's made me stick with Nintendo since.
I didn't like the Wii much for a while, because I thought Smash Bros and Mario Kart were rubbish. But as soon as I sacked off motion controls for a GameCube controller, Smash Bros especially was brilliant. There are games where the motion controls work well.
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Post by kerr9000 on Sept 5, 2022 17:55:53 GMT
I didn't like the Master System in comparison to the NES or PS1 in comparison to the N64, and it's probably what's made me stick with Nintendo since. I didn't like the Wii much for a while, because I thought Smash Bros and Mario Kart were rubbish. But as soon as I sacked off motion controls for a GameCube controller, Smash Bros especially was brilliant. There are games where the motion controls work well. I loved my Wii in the end but it's biggest weakness was people feeling they needed to put waggle stuff into everything sometimes at the expence of a good experience. |
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Post by mattb on Sept 6, 2022 0:29:56 GMT
I didn't like the Master System in comparison to the NES or PS1 in comparison to the N64, and it's probably what's made me stick with Nintendo since. I didn't like the Wii much for a while, because I thought Smash Bros and Mario Kart were rubbish. But as soon as I sacked off motion controls for a GameCube controller, Smash Bros especially was brilliant. There are games where the motion controls work well. I loved my Wii in the end but it's biggest weakness was people feeling they needed to put waggle stuff into everything sometimes at the expence of a good experience. It's one of the joys of using Dolphin that you can map gratuitous waggle controls to extra buttons on your controller. |
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Post by Special Turbo on Sept 6, 2022 4:02:33 GMT
Bought the dreadful 3DO for full price when it was first released  remains my worst ever gaming purchase, an appalling machine. I waited until holiday '94 to take the 3DO plunge. By then, it was $399 instead of $699. Also, there was a very brief period (maybe a day or two?) where the free Total Eclipse offer and the free Pebble Beach Golf & Twisted offer were both valid, so you got the system and three games for $399. I would have never bought a 3DO if Super Street Fighter II Turbo wasn't exclusive, but I do think history has kind of rewritten what the quality of the 3DO library was. The system was expensive yes, but it had some killer games. If you were into fighting games, between Super Street Fighter II Turbo and the incredible port of Samurai Shodown, 3DO was the system to have for that moment in time. Gex was a great platformer that was exclusive at the time. 3DO had the best version of Night Trap. Slam n' Jam '95 was by far the best basketball game available at the time. John Madden Football and FIFA soccer on 3DO completely blew away what was available on SNES & Genesis. Twisted still holds up as one of the most fun party games ever released and there's never really been a game like it since. Not sure what kind of games you were into at the time (clearly not fighting or sports), but maybe 3DO just didn't cater to the kinds of games you prefer. |
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Post by Special Turbo on Sept 6, 2022 4:05:46 GMT
That's how I felt about PlayStation on release day. Wasn't impressed. Didn't think the games were that good. 3DO graphics were just as good and 3DO had way more good games. Ended up selling my PSX a year later when N64 came out. Excuse me, but provocative and deliberate trolling is not tolerated on this forum  I did play the Need for Speed on both PS1 and 3D0....as well as the Doom ports, so leave it out! Didn't know we had so many Battle Arena Toshinden fans here! |
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Post by Special Turbo on Sept 6, 2022 4:08:23 GMT
3D0 Is something I have never owned, I have played bits and bobs on one in a game shop I used to go in and it seemed ok.... The whole 3DO, CDI type console thing just seemed to pass me by... I own a CDI now and I have about 4 games but I have never played on it, I dont have a joypad for it and every time I look at the price of one theres something far more intresting I could spend the cash on. CD-i was released several years before 3DO and just didn't seem to have any games anybody wanted to play. When 3DO came out, it reminded people of CD-i because of the super high price, but the price fell quickly and 3DO ended up having a lot of great games. There was never a moment in time where CD-i had anything anybody wanted to play. 3DO's moment in the sun was short lived (the second PSX came out, 3DO was instantly dead the way PS2 killed Dreamcast on day one), but there was a year or two where 3DO was the ultimate experience and actually had games people wanted. |
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Post by sephiroth81 on Sept 6, 2022 8:20:12 GMT
Excuse me, but provocative and deliberate trolling is not tolerated on this forum I did play the Need for Speed on both PS1 and 3D0....as well as the Doom ports, so leave it out! Didn't know we had so many Battle Arena Toshinden fans here! Toshinden was indeed rubbish.....but RIDDDDGEEEEEEE RACERRRRRRRRR |
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Post by mattb on Sept 6, 2022 9:48:39 GMT
3DO had the best version of Night Trap. Now that's what I call damning with faint praise. 
Seriously, there's a lot more to the 3DO than crappy FMV and early attempts at 3D that haven't aged very well. However that's what fits the narrative, so it's inevitable that that's how most people will remember it.
If I was trapped on a desert island for a few months with one, a copy of Star Control II and a suitable power source, I wouldn't be desperately unhappy at the prospect though. There may even be a few other games you could throw in too.
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Post by megamixer on Sept 6, 2022 11:27:06 GMT
Only briefly owned a 3DO, and well after it was worth anything (but before it got uber expensive to collect for again as everything has now...) but I enjoyed it. Had the FZ-1 front-loading model and it was a cool-looking system. Stock controller had a stupid amount of flex on it and the built-on headphone jack was years ahead of its time. Had quite a few games for it that I enjoyed:
Need for Speed
Road Rash
Killing Time
FIFA (I'm not even a big footie fan but this was leagues ahead of other versions - pun fully intended - and I played the hell out of it)
Super Street Fighter II Turbo
I also had the American Laser Games lightgun to go with Drug Wars, Corpse Killer, and another I can't remember. I don't know if mine was faulty but the accuracy of this gun was DREADFUL so I didn't play those much, even though I have a soft spot for "crap" FMV experimental games.
I used to try and acquire games through joblots and ended up with multiple porn VCDs lol. Never had the FMV add-on unit to test those though...(although I wish I still had them as they are supposedly uncommon and worth some good money).
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Post by blucey on Sept 6, 2022 15:10:05 GMT
I owned a Jaguar (paid 40 quid for it just so I could play AvP). Didn't warm to that very much at all.
PS3. I was deep into the Xbox 360 but picked up a PS3 a few years in. Again, it didn't do much for me.
Oddest one is the Gamecube though. Once I'd completed Resi Evil 4 like five times, I never really did much else on that console.
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Post by Antiriad2097 on Sept 6, 2022 17:08:19 GMT
I've just realised the original XBox is probably this for me. I've had a couple (one went in the bin after I found the cat had pissed all over it), but all I've really played extensively was the underwhelming Halo games on it. I've popped on Burnout and one or two others, but its just not a machine I go to. It's weird, as I have a load of games for it and I hammered the Cube/PS2 and was all over the 360.
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Post by sega2006 on Sept 7, 2022 1:49:31 GMT
Sony PSP
Brought one brand spanking new early on in its life so naturally being blessed with very large hands it murdered my thumbs, didn't buy many games because of it so in the end it got swapped for a boxed NES and a pile of games, something I've enjoyed so much more.
I do realise they've made revised versions since but as yet it's still not pulled me back into buying another.
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Post by mattb on Sept 7, 2022 2:22:10 GMT
I warmed to the PSP considerably once it got hacked and you could put emulators on it.
The whole concept of a handheld console with spinning optical media still feels faintly ridiculous to me though. The loading times on some games were excruciating.
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Post by sephiroth81 on Sept 7, 2022 8:03:14 GMT
I warmed to the PSP considerably once it got hacked and you could put emulators on it. The whole concept of a handheld console with spinning optical media still feels faintly ridiculous to me though. The loading times on some games were excruciating. True. Sony even attempted to improve load times by whacking in another 32MB of RAM for the 2nd model. I don't think my UMD drive even works anymore (too many moving parts!), but no loss, as games run and load so much faster off a memory card....as well as being silent and not sapping the battery. UMDs seemed ok for movies, but that was always a bit of a gimmick. |
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Post by blucey on Sept 7, 2022 8:53:08 GMT
I warmed to the PSP considerably once it got hacked and you could put emulators on it. This. PSP games were generally pretty rubbish I thought. But as a machine to tinker with and do emulation shit, it was great. Decent Speccy emulator on there too. |
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remains my worst ever gaming purchase, an appalling machine.
Its just some interesting potential opportunities for AI and automation to help and free humans in the future, rather than enslave us. We need General Zod to implement it.