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Post by Chinnico on Aug 24, 2022 12:57:15 GMT
Hi guys,
The theme of owning the physical version of games and the actual hardware versus the digital ones has been already largely discussed.
However, I wanted to offer what I think is a different perspective, and hear your thoughts on that regard.
For this discussion, as for digital games, I am thinking of those provided by actual online services (like Gog, Steam or the console shops), rather than roms and emulation.
In the years, I have amassed a fair collection of systems and games. Nothing jaw-dropping, but enough to make my nephews say 'wow!', at least when they were small enough! It is when I started to think what to do with all that stuff, and how my nephews too haven't been using much of that either, that it came to me. I have also a number of digital releases on Gog and Steam (almost never used other digital services), but...
When I will be gone, will my nephews be able to inherit anything of the the digital stuff? I fear that it would be rather gone for good, as the license agreement is linked to my account.
On the other hand, all the physical stuff will be still there, if they want it. Some items might even mean something for them, as they do for me, regardless of the actual market value.
What about you? Are you concerned about the fate of your collection, or at least of your most treasured items? Do you feel it is a shame or a waste that all the digital content you have invested in so far will be just reabsorbed by the matrix? Do you foresee any method to salvage anything non-physical, that someone else might enjoy, maybe paying a tribute to your memory?
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Post by sega2006 on Aug 24, 2022 13:51:01 GMT
I'll generally go physical where possible but even that doesn't mean much as Discs are becoming gloried download links with most of the games files having to be downloaded. Technically the license agreement isn't named so you could in theory transfer it but most companies won't as it means less money for them, thats on the assumption those services still remain after we shuffle on as some of us realistically could see another 40+ years and games could be very different by then.
You can I believe transfer an account to another person so you'd probably have to do that I guess, my most treasured item which is a Car is probably going in the hole with me, the rest I'd hope might be cared for an enjoyed but I'd be too dead to do much about it.
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Post by rednoggy on Aug 24, 2022 14:17:09 GMT
Are there any laws protecting rights to digital products after death? I mean if I put, say my psn account in a will, would Sony have to honour that? Time again laws have shown to be ill suited to the digital age. I mean you could just pass on your account details.
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Post by sega2006 on Aug 24, 2022 14:21:27 GMT
Depends on how it's agreement is writtten, it will have to specifically state it cannot be transferred or that they have the right to remove access to it without reason in which case, no they don't have to honour it.
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Post by rednoggy on Aug 24, 2022 15:15:07 GMT
Depends on how it's agreement is writtten, it will have to specifically state it cannot be transferred or that they have the right to remove access to it without reason in which case, no they don't have to honour it. Yeah thought that.
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Post by rednoggy on Aug 24, 2022 15:19:56 GMT
In regards to being worried; nope. Not at all. I'll be more concerned about making sure cash and property end up in the right hands. If I had something rare then maybe, but all my stuff is common so likely preserved. Even my physical ps4 collection will likely be no good without access to patches etc. Besides most people are going to be mostly on subscription based services. T
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Post by megamixer on Aug 24, 2022 19:25:39 GMT
Most modern games will (as others have said) just be coasters with questionable value once servers an access to patches/updates is erased.
However, I still buy my games physical for multiple reasons. Most relevant to this thread is because of resale value. If you buy right the first time, many games will hold RRP or increase in value. You can't say that for the value of your cash in the bank.
Especially Nintendo games. I am totally not against digital these days (our crappy internet connection speed notwithstanding) but I still buy all of my Switch games physical as Nintendo platforms are always collectible with many games being worth something, and I believe this will continue even if physical Switch games become "incomplete" or compromised down the line due to the disappearance of updates.
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Post by normi on Aug 24, 2022 20:19:40 GMT
I was physical but had to scale back a lot of it. only if the price was reasonable. I would not pay inflated prices unless I really wanted the game and the scalper margin wasn’t too big. For example. I got the Golf Story collectors edition with the Golf Cup for £60 around half a year ago. But the eshop you can buy it for £6. It’s only when the price is right and definitely one I am keen on. Otherwise physical collecting creates a messy situation were you need space but don’t have any and it keeps piling up and you become a hoarder which becomes an unhealthy addiction.
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Post by mattb on Aug 24, 2022 23:29:07 GMT
Are there any laws protecting rights to digital products after death? I mean if I put, say my psn account in a will, would Sony have to honour that? Time again laws have shown to be ill suited to the digital age. I mean you could just pass on your account details. Sony's terms of service explicitly state that you cannot sell your PSN account, transfer it free of charge, or share the password with anyone. If you're caught doing any of those things they'll probably ban you.
They can do this because you don't own it; rather it's a subscription service. You might technically own games that you purchased as downloads with it, but that's not much use without any legal means of accessing them.
If you're going to pass on your details, I'd suggest being discreet about it.
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Post by psj3809 on Aug 26, 2022 7:03:52 GMT
Not worried one bit. I like physical but also I like digital. Only one way to find out. Fight !! I’ve gone true digital the last few years with not only games but also music. Love the way I have access to tons of music or games. Okay I won’t be able to hand them down but I’m sure my kids aren’t fussed by that and I’m the future they might be dirt cheap to buy again anyway
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Post by blucey on Aug 26, 2022 8:05:13 GMT
I'm 99.99% digital now. I own one game, Deathloop, and I'll lash that on as soon as I finish it.
A few years ago I sold all my CDs and DVDs to CEX online. Used it to get an iPad from them.
I had a few BluRays but lashed them on eBay.
My music comes via Amazon Music (although I do also maintain a pretty serious mp3 collection), my films are streamed or on my Plex server, I review PSN games and get sent a lot so I'm never short of anything to play.
There's literally no point me having physical media anymore.
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Post by learnedrobb on Aug 26, 2022 15:32:34 GMT
I dread the all digital future. My ability to play the games I want, or watch a particular film tied into whether the rights holder has a deal which allows it to be made available digitally or not?
And don't tell me it will never happen (a popular mantra from the pro digital lobby). Look at the PSN owners who have lost their digital film purchases from Studiocanal. They were bought & paid for, not "rented", yet they are losing access to them due to the licensing changing.
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Post by megamixer on Aug 26, 2022 16:57:29 GMT
I dread the all digital future. My ability to play the games I want, or watch a particular film tied into whether the rights holder has a deal which allows it to be made available digitally or not? And don't tell me it will never happen (a popular mantra from the pro digital lobby). Look at the PSN owners who have lost their digital film purchases from Studiocanal. They were bought & paid for, not "rented", yet they are losing access to them due to the licensing changing. These are my exact fears too. There are already regional differences between streaming services that you need a VPN to negate. TV shows with censored episodes so as not to offend anybody in 2022 etc.
I did get rid of most of my DVDs but I ripped them all to create my own, fully-controlled digital movie collection. Same with music where I download/acquire anything I like so that I "own" it. All backed up on multiple HDDs
Key word is "Control". You never fully have it when relying on streaming services.
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Post by sephiroth81 on Aug 26, 2022 17:49:32 GMT
These are some nice first world problems.
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Post by Antiriad2097 on Aug 26, 2022 19:00:53 GMT
I dread the all digital future. My ability to play the games I want, or watch a particular film tied into whether the rights holder has a deal which allows it to be made available digitally or not? And don't tell me it will never happen (a popular mantra from the pro digital lobby). Look at the PSN owners who have lost their digital film purchases from Studiocanal. They were bought & paid for, not "rented", yet they are losing access to them due to the licensing changing. I would feel no guilt whatsoever in resorting to piracy for a copy of an item I've already paid for, particularly a stream/digital download game/movie.
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