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Post by megamixer on Sept 26, 2022 21:08:21 GMT
I admit, I bought mine as a cheap way to get a Blu Ray player, but I spent far more time playing games on it than I did my 360. It did follow the PS2 in that it's media capabilities could have been a way to stealthily infiltrate homes with gaming consoles. People were furious about the £500 launch price at the time (though strangely not so much these days when they were happy to hand over £800 to scalpers for PS5s...) but it was often forgotten that standalone Blu-Ray players were a LOT more expensive. I remember seeing the first BR player in Argos for £999.99!!! I have that exact model now but managed to get it for £60 on ebay, mint in box and barely used which is wild depreciation. Main downside is having to update it via USB or burning update isos to discs as it wasn't internet-ready for firmware updates but it's a cool, if bulky, machine.
Anyway - that tangent aside - one of the things that pissed me off about my own PS3 (first Slim revision) is that it never played DVD movies properly. It would always crash and lock up, requiring a turn off at the wall and database rebuild upon restart (and risk of damage to data on the HDD...).
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Post by icemann on Sept 27, 2022 7:16:55 GMT
I recall back at launch that the ps2 backwards compatible models were more expensive than the standard ones, which some complained about. Where as now the backwards compatible models are far more sought after. Funny how things turn out.
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Post by megamixer on Sept 27, 2022 17:25:40 GMT
I recall back at launch that the ps2 backwards compatible models were more expensive than the standard ones, which some complained about. Where as now the backwards compatible models are far more sought after. Funny how things turn out. I think the "cheaper" model only had a 20GB HDD which would have been the justification. I also think a lot of 60GB models would have succumbed to YLOD or just broken down and been scrapped at the point where their resale value hit the bottom of its depreciation curve, hence why there is probably less of them around (just like how many launch 360s with RROD must have been scrapped entirely).
I've never really understood the huge price for PAL 60GB models as an all in one PS1/2/3 BC machine because the PS2 playback is far, far from comprehensive, even after multiple update packages meant to increase support for more games. You're far better off just having a PS2 alongside a PS3, as it will also be much better with PS1 games, of which many have glitches and bugs when the original discs are used on PS3s...
The only BC PS3 model worth considering imo are the Japanese and US 20GB/60GB models which shipped with the PS2's "Emotion" chip for much better accuracy when using PS2 discs, so the emulation is hardware-based and allegedly 98% accurate. In Europe/PAL, only the 60GB is backwards-compatible and it's all software-based which drops the emulation accuracy from 98% to around 57%  . We REALLY got shafted here in Europe, but the price didn't reflect that due to the amount of sales tax dumped on top.
This site here has is a great resource of info for different launch models and BC stuff.
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Post by sephiroth81 on Oct 1, 2022 10:33:27 GMT
Yeah, agree that while in theory the original 100% backwards compat PS3 with the emotion engine embedded et al sounds incredible, its just not worth the premium, the size, the noise and the unreliability. Its better to just get a PS3 Slim and a PS2 Slim.....probably costs far less and might even take up less space overall!! The only downside is that you need two plug sockets, boo hoo.
Love my PS3 Slim. I know it doesn't do PS2 games (aside from the PS2 Classics you can get on PSN....which work really well incidentally), but it just gets most things right, and doesn't look like total cheap garbage like the PS3 Super Slim.
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Post by megamixer on Oct 2, 2022 14:53:13 GMT
One thing I always forget about the original PS3 is the crazy amount of ports it had: 4x USB on the front, and that lift-up cover with Compact Flash, SD, and ProDuo slots.
I actually like it despite its bulk and George Forman grille-style design. The PS5 is much bigger.
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Post by icemann on Oct 3, 2022 14:12:45 GMT
One thing I always forget about the original PS3 is the crazy amount of ports it had: 4x USB on the front, and that lift-up cover with Compact Flash, SD, and ProDuo slots. I actually like it despite its bulk and George Forman grille-style design. The PS5 is much bigger. Allowed you to turn it into a mini-desktop of sorts. I had a usb keyboard and mouse connected most times. Made for far easier navigation and browsing. |
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. We REALLY got shafted here in Europe, but the price didn't reflect that due to the amount of sales tax dumped on top.
Its just some interesting potential opportunities for AI and automation to help and free humans in the future, rather than enslave us. We need General Zod to implement it.